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Of political hay making and not much progress. democrats plan to push ahead with or without republican support. majority rules. this is a america. g.o.p. is digging for a fights. with us, chris wallace. now what? >> well, i think what's going to happen, good afternoon, shep, you're going to see democratic leaders in the house and senate go back to their caucuses and counted noses to see how many votes they have. do they have the bare majority, which i think with resignations and deaths is 216 in the house and 51 obviously in the senate try to pass through the budget maneuver called reconciliat...

Reconciliation is a rule of the senate. all this rule of the senate does is allow a majority of the senate to take a position and pass a piece of legislation, support that position. now, is there something wrong with majority rules? i don't think so. >> is there something wrong with majority rules? i don't think so -- unless democrats ever want to use them. and then we won't call it reconciliation anymore. we'll call it using the rules of the senate. then we'll call it nuclear. republican senator orrin hatch calling it, "the highly partisan nuclear option of reconciliation." republican senator...

Is allow a majority of the senate to take a position and pass a piece of legislation, support that position. now, is there something wrong with majority rules? i don't think so. >> is there something wrong with majority rules? i don't think so -- unless democrats ever want to use them. and then we won't call it reconciliation anymore. we'll call it using the rules of the senate. then we'll call it nuclear. republican senator orrin hatch calling it, "the highly partisan nuclear option of reconciliation." republican senator john cornyn tweeting today about "reconciliation, the 51-vote nuclear op...

Gets it ton, and at least one person who is in the house of representatives is not able to pull the sort of shi canery and obstructionism as we get on both sides of the aisle of the senate? >> the house has different rules in the senate. the majority rules in the house. and in addition, the democrats right now have such an enormous majority in the house, a 40-plus vote majority, that nancy pelosi can draft anything she wants. she brings it to the floor -- >> in the house you're saying? >> in the house. she brings it to the floor without amendments. and we vote it through. so nancy pelosi exerc...

Really something for those people who watch our program like to know the ins and outs. so this is about the rules of the senate. the president tweeted, if republicans are going to pass great future legislation in the senate, they must immediately go to a 51-vote majority, not senseless 60. even though parts of health care could pass at 51, some really good things need 60. so many great future bills and budgets need 60. that is one of the rules of the senate. the intention of that, of course, the founders wanted the house to have simple majority rules, but the senate to require on certain kinds...