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It is opportunistic, it is attention seeking, to your point, is this something that they have been to gravitate toward? yes, ever since the 60s, it has been about for trying the right and evil, not wrong, it started when they blamed the vietnam war on nixon, then they called our troops baby killers, it started there, when you could demonize the other side, you are free to get whatever you want. >> jesse: kimberly, what kind of pressure do you think this play is under right now? we have had to big-time sponsors drop out, and as you want to know, time warner, cnn's parent company, is behind it, ...

Political meaning in it, which is what they are doing, do you think that's okay for someone can do that? >> juan: absolutely. modernize it, make it contemporary. and this is what happened with hamlet. it is the number one show in new york city. >> jesse: overrated. >> juan: many americans love hamlet, it is a huge winner of awards. guess what? hamlet speaks directly to so many issues of current concern in american life, especially immigration, but in large part, the whole notion that guess what, the founding fathers are the heroes across time -- >> kimberly: so let's do taming of the shrew wit...