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Would leak this if it's t was -- if it was an ally, to make mueller look ridiculous or look at t at the questions and to put them out there and encourage the president to participate and think i can answer these? >> i had a different thought, which is essentially what the president was doing this morning in tweeting, what he was doing is essentially trying to build an argument that if he's charged with obstruction of justice, and they haven't proven the underlying collusion, that is not acceptable. i think he's actually trying to build an argument with his audience, with his fans because what ...

It makes it that much harder because then you have to rely on other witnesses, e-mails from other people, circumstantial evidence. if you're in a posture of a criminal prosecution where you have to prove guilt beyond all reasonable doubt, that's going to make mueller's job harder. it's a challenge he's going to have to confront. >> matt, one question about paul manafort. he hasn't yet pleaded guilty. there's an expectation that maybe he will in the future, who knows? but we had chuck rosenberg on the other day who's not prone to exaggeration that he at some point will be a convicted felon give...

Independent and protected. >> he told the "time's" quote i have the absolute right to do what i want to do with the justice department. is that true? >> yes, that is true. that's the carry part. and the reason why he has the absolute right is congress has not passed anything and we need to know the answers to these really important questions about whether or not the trump campaign in anyway colluded with the russians. we don't know the answer until we get the response from mueller. it's important not to jump to any conclusions. we have a lot of evidence is that is damming. we have several indi...

Wiseman and others are an anomaly. i know a lot of fbi agents former and president who i worked with over the years who were upset that the organization is political and they are upset at the behavior of some in the investigation, and weeding this out is probably the first thing that needs to be done. >> the former ethics czar said using twitter on christmas eve to intimidate a witness, andrew mccabe, is not a very christian way to celebrate a holiday, and that does make mueller's job easier, and that's a nice thing to do. merry christmas. and then another tweet, somebody who threatens three k...

Into cloud the issues. the second is depricate and make mueller or the department of justice look bad, as if they are tainted in some way. i think both of those are strategic preparation for something, either an attack on the mueller investigation or an effort to fight back against whatever it reveals. >> what is very revealing is the cnn poll out today. this shows that over the past month alone, senator, there was a ten-point increase among republicans who think the russia investigation is simply an effort to discredit the president. it seems as though republicans tactics are working, at leas...