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$3 billion community block grant cuts. one of the things the community block grant does is that it gives money to states, some of which goes to fund programs like meals on wheels. make mulvaney, the budget director says he can't burden taxpayers with that sort of spending. listen. we can't do that anymore. we can spend money on programs just because they sound good. meals on wheels sounds great. a state decision to find that particular portion, to take the federal money and give it to the states and say, we want to give you money for programs that don't work. i can defend that anymore. >> he a...