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To sort of make a final decision here. and my understanding from talking to sources is that trump has become a little bit more comfortable with the final option here. which is to add some of these troops but it's a difficult road to get here. >> phil, stay with us. i want to bring in the panel. joining us is weekly standard founder and editor bill kristol. associated press white house reporter jonathan lameer. jonathan capehart and a former rnc director. can you pick up on this thread that no president wants to take the country to war. but the responsibility you have to our military is that no...

Not, that's where he made the tough decisions. president obama talked about closing guantanamo bay. he didn't. ultimately when you get into the job, sometimes you see the gravity of it. i hope he grows, i think the jury is out on how it will be. when things go wrong 16 years in this war, but i think he's making the right decision for the right reasons in terms of getting advice from the right people. so in that case i think it's a good thing. how it goes and what corker said, i think he's talking about the things that happened last week. i think what you will see like with the air strikes in s...

They both backed wars that became unpopular and became, you know, political liabilities for both president bush and john mccain. do you sense anything in president trump that suggests that, one, he's willing to sort of make a decision and then absorb and take the fall for the consequences of those decisions? and just talk about making a decision in this vein as our country's commander in chief four days after bob corker of the senate foreign relations committee questioned whether he had the stability and competence to be the president. is this the kind of man we follow in military decisions? >...

Contractors instead. that was a strategy that hr mcmaster was opposed to and the new chief of staff. this marks a new thinking inside this administration and also a departure from some of what we heard from candidate trump on the campaign trail who ran as a noninterventionist. that's not the reality in the white house. >> let me play for you defense secretary jim mattis on the topic. maybe foreshadowing of what we'll hear tonight. here he is. >> i would not -- i was not willing to make significant troop lifts until we knew what was the strategy. what was the commitment going in. in that regard...

To risk our treasure, our men and women at war, that certainly is a sentiment that a lot of americans feel. i think it's a sentiment that his two predecessors felt, but presidents bush and obama understood that only a reluctant commander in chief took the country to war. i understand the policy reviews were almost derailed by almost a petulant refusal to see no good options. >> that's right. in some ways trump has been channeling the views of the american people. the country itself is wary of war after 16 years now. and he wanted to -- you know, give the country an easy solution and just bring...