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>> that's a lot of access, but it's justified. i mean we are a radio show where one man reaches almost eight million people a week. so this is one black man that reaches almost one in four black people. there's no woman that reaches one in four women or no one latino that reaches one in four latino. it reaches 70% of the african-american audience so you can't blame the man for coming on and talking directly to voters. this is back when fdr was doing his fire side chat via what medium? radio. he no longer needs to talk to the white house press corps to talk to a reporter who's going to talk to ...

I can now go back to, you know, eating popcorn and bonbons. that's not the way the whole thing works. >> i want to ask about the second aspect of transparency which i think is different than access. i think access is about internal press competition and transparency is what the public knows and has access to and i want to talk about that after this break. and some difficult ones. but, through it all, we've persevered, supporting some of the biggest ideas in modern history. so why should our anniversary matter to you? because for 200 years, we've been helping ideas move from ambition to achieve...

Can get ratings on my morning show. when we ask for it, we receive it because of who we are and the access, like i said, that we give directly to the voters. the new 18 to 34-year-old voter that's out there that the past two campaigns have been trying to appeal to, they aren't attracted to the same mediums. they aren't attracted to these things sitting across our desk. they're on their smartphones, looking at things that are less than 50 words, they're looking at the characters you can get on twitter and facebook and that's the news that they want. they get everything they want in that salacio...

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It's a dangerous development that they have exploited cleverly and ruthlessly. it seems to me this discussion is confusing. two different things ed henry mentioned. access on the one hand and transparency on the other. president obama has granted 674 interviews in his first term compared to just 217 interviews by george w. bush. so it's not like the president hasn't been accessible. it's just that he's granted that access to lots of outlets, like ebony magazine, the daily show and the view. the public, though, has a stake in transparency and on this front the white house's record has been far ...