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Rich slave trader, his statue chucked into the dock water of bristol port. were you internally cheering when that happened? i thought it was really interesting, and i think now it's in a museum or a gallery, and it's much more interesting than it was when it was in the street and no—one really noticed it. there's nothing more invisible than a statue apart from perhaps a plaque on a statue. most of the time, we don't notice them. it's only these protests that have brought them to our attention, and i think the conversations they've inspired have been very interesting, although statues aren't ...

From perhaps a plaque on a statue. most of the time, we don't notice them. it's only these protests that have brought them to our attention, and i think the conversations they've inspired have been very interesting, although statues aren't particularly interesting in themselves. how far do you take this? museums are stuffed, certainly in the uk, stuffed full with artefacts that were brought home, some would say looted, from countries that were part of the british empire. should those objects be returned? is there a blatant issue here of making amends, reparations? i think we should look at ite...

Really noticed it. there's nothing more invisible than a statue apart from perhaps a plaque on a statue. most of the time, we don't notice them. it's only these protests that have brought them to our attention, and i think the conversations they've inspired have been very interesting, although statues aren't particularly interesting in themselves. how far do you take this? museums are stuffed, certainly in the uk, stuffed full with artefacts that were brought home, some would say looted, from countries that were part of the british empire. should those objects be returned? is there a blatant i...

Of making amends, reparations? i think we should look at items on a case—by—case basis. and some of the items at the time were considered loot, and i remember gladstone, for example, talking about some items had been taken from ethiopia and saying it would be good if we returned them. and that was 100 years ago and we still haven't returned them. they're in the v&a. and we've got to remember that the british museum, for example, only has 1% of its collection on display. if you returned a few items, you've still got 99.99% of your collection, and you've probably got a very interesting schol...