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Paid and how many have not paid. >> two things reporters wanted to get out of this phone call, that number that you just suggested and this demographic breakdown. what we got from hhs was the demographic breakdown but it's a demographic breakdown that's based on an assumption into the pool will look the same same ratio as paid and unpaid. they haven't told us what the paid and unpaid are. you are making these assumptions beationed on totally phony numbers. incredible to me that some people are taking these demographic numbers so seriously and looking at decimal points break downs in these grou...

Back in the 1930s, but there's no contract, nothing in writing about that, by the way, and there's no signage that says ft. lee residents only, so we kind of look at that and go, huh? so, this is -- >> every time, and this is what i found interesting, it could be cleared up very easily. >> yes. >> every time they try to explain something it looks more and more like there genuinely is something super fishy happening. >> exactly. when you ask, it's like now you're making assumptions. what is the purpose of this? >> bob -- this is my big question, i think people vastly overestimate how well the c...

Came to the hearing with this large graphic depicting the lanes that were being shut down, and this particular entrance was set aside for ft. lee residents back in the 1930s, but there's no contract, nothing in writing about that, by the way, and there's no signage that says ft. lee residents only, so we kind of look at that and go, huh? so, this is -- >> every time, and this is what i found interesting, it could be cleared up very easily. >> yes. >> every time they try to explain something it looks more and more like there genuinely is something super fishy happening. >> exactly. when you ask...

Meaningful -- >> -- we are making assumptions. >> i don't know that she is out of wedlock. the bottom line is she is just trying to improve herself like most americans and you can't do that on a minimum wage. as far as your talking points memo is concerned, i wish we could go back to that economy, too where the middle class wasn't hollowed out. where your productivity was fairly rewarded. o'er the last couple decades, we have seen workers work harder isn't rewarded back in the day. >> it will be rewarded if there is more jobs what drives wages up is the competition for jobs. the more jobs ther...

Meaningful -- >> -- we are making assumptions. >> i don't know that she is out of wedlock. the bottom line is she is just trying to improve herself like most americans and you can't do that on a minimum wage. as far as your talking points memo is concerned, i wish we could go back to that economy, too where the middle class wasn't hollowed out. where your productivity was fairly rewarded. o'er the last couple decades, we have seen workers work harder isn't rewarded back in the day. >> it will be rewarded if there is more jobs what drives wages up is the competition for jobs. the more jobs ther...