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We'll of course get back to you throughout the day. joining us now to discuss all of this, jim sciutto, cnn political analyst david gregory and special correspondent jamie gangle. jim sciutto, what do you make of this omb memo saying they were engaged in a policy process. that's why the nearly $400 million in defense related aid to ukraine was being withheld? >> it does seem like something of a retroactive rationalization. there was a policy process that already took place, right? congress appropriated the funds in may of this year, the defense department authorized the funds because it revi...

Once you saw all the testimony not only of ambassador yovanovich but others in that embassy, u.s. policy was an anti-corruption policy in ukraine. so it's not as if president trump is raising for the first time the idea of fighting corruption in ukraine. this has been u.s. policy, and it's something that the embassy was already doing to the best they could, or least making efforts. >> absolutely. nobody disputes the idea that ukraine has corruption issues, but the president's own administration had certified just weeks before that ukraine wasn't so corrupt that the aid couldn't flow. so they h...

In foreign policy to do what he likes. and in fact, he does. president trump, taking the troops out of syria, allowing the turkish forces to go in literally meant that some kurdish families went to bed saturday night and woke up sunday morning, packed their kids, and fled for their lives. a lot of people, including both sides of the aisle, totally disagreed with that. the president has the authority to do it, impulsive as that decision may have been, as threatening to our national security. we are not talking about that here. an ambassador, i wasn't your testimony, and i take it and thank you ...

To do what he likes. allowing the turkish forces to go in, literally meant that some families went to bed saturday night and sunday morning at their kids and fled for their lives. both sides of the aisle totally disagreed with that. the president has the authority to do it, the impulsiveness that decision may have been on why this may have been as threatening to our national security. we are not talking about that here. ambassador volker, i have listen to your testimony, and i take it and thank you for making efforts to try to advance what had been a bipartisan ukraine policy. help ukraine get...

President has authority in foreign policy to do what he likes. and in fact he does. you know, a recent precedent by president trump to take our troops out of syria and allow the turkish norsforces to go in literally meant that some kurdish families went to bed saturday night and woke up sunday morning, packed their kids and fled for their lives. a lot of people including both sides of the aisle totally disagreed with that. but the president has the authority to do it impulsive as that decision may have been, as unwise as it may have been and threatening to our national security. we're not talk...