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$400 billion program, which is payroll tax cuts, some of it, about a third of it, is actual construction. so about a third of that 400 is actual construction projects. it's not that big time in an economy which we have to keep reminding ourselves, is over $15 trillion. so what's 100 billion or $200 billion going to do to $15 trillion economy? everybody knows, not much. if i were him, i'd take a big program to congress, have them say no with a big loud big, not a small proposal followed by a small, quiet no. it's not working politically. >> chris, hang in there. i want to bring in congresswoman...

At this foreclosure stage when those banks are making errors. when they submitted false affidavits. that's a problem we can tackle and we should, in my opinion, be tackling and am disappointed the government hasn't done more on that issue. to go back at the beginning and say five years ago, is it the homeowner who didn't document their income, the broker who pressured the homeowner. not only is it hard to do, i'm not sure it makes a difference to where we are today, which is we've got millions of homeowners who can't pay, struggling. we need to start thinking solutions going forward. >> the so...