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>> pleasure. >> michael, you remember when arizona said it built pass. the justice department says it is unconstitutional, it is racial profiling. >> i don't think it is but it could lead to it. it leads to the opening of the flood gates where arizona will make a mosaic and say one tile should be this way and we see kansas and oklahoma and utah making pro immigration legislation because they need the crops picked throughout the country. this conservative court is actually going to allow the arizona law to go but it is going to change everything, judge. >> judge jeanine: i think in this case th...

To talk about. >> yeah. it's a real issue because the amount of rape that's experienced in this country by women, also by men particularly in the prison system, but the amount of rape that women experience in the country is who riffically high. the estimates, 1 in 4 women. 30,000 pregnancies possibly a year. this is not a rare occurrence in the way that todd akin claimed it was. but to me, what's fascinating is american public opinion on abortion is very complicated. it's one of the most complicated matters of public opinion to get a fine grain analysis from a polling perspective. people's opi...

Life movement did very well was fight the battle on the extremes in the other direction. the whole strategic idea behind making pro choice folks d fend partial birth abortion was to make opponents defend their most extreme positions. we are now on the exact other side of that debate in which they have to defend their most extreme positions and the polling on completely clear. the american people recoil, and i would say rightly so at the motion of forcing a woman raped to carry that pregnancy and that's the official position. >> can i also say one thing, lawrence? i think what has been, as a wo...