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Statements. whenever grassley says it's going to make it harder to bring in witnesses in the future, and usually they do have that if they release transcripts over their objection, and in this case the witness himself is asking for the transcript to be made public. how that would affect somebody like jared kushner moving forward, it's hard to understand the logic. >> and then any legal grand to stand out here to sue buzzfeed, and does he have a high burden to disprove the claims in the dossier? >> malice standard is a high standard and it's going to be a difficult case. that said, buzzfeed did...

Standard. the only difference to the uk laws to here is the defendant in the uk has to prove what is true. more than not, trump's words are held against him. >> what he said about obama spying on him was made up on the spot. you ccan say he is the presiden. when he was a candidate, he was saying this judge is unfair because he is mexican. she is guilty. those can be attacked if you undermine the first amendment. he could be vulnerable as a citizen. >> there are things that candidate trump said that would have thrown him in jail in europe. in the first 100 days, i did not hear a lot of insightm...

Did these things with actual malice and because he and organization are public figures. the judge said, yes, she had actual malice in her heart. >> you know why? what things. she was disgruntled contestant. she didn't make it into preliminary rounds. >> that is the no enough. >> and number two they allowed transgender individuals into the pageant. she had a motivation to say these things with malice in her heart. megyn: they made her be malicious? quickly, jonna. >> she would have to be out and outlying to have to meet the malice standard. >> obviously judge katz agreed with me. megyn: the jud...