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Care, like i always say, pay me now or pay me later, because those states still have to pay the indirect costs of those hospitals in the states taking care of those seriously ill people when they could pay at the beginning for people to get primary care and they wouldn't have to show up at the emergency room. people will pay regardless in that state. >> let's go to the next one, a common republican tchotchke, that is malpractice reform. here is donald trump. >> fourth, we should implement gal reforms that protect patients and doctors from unnecessary costs that drive up the price of insurance ...

Quality and prices go down allowing people to cross state borders to find a better plan? >> that's a great point. i want to reassure people out there this has to be a transition. it isn't about collapsing the state exchanges but working toward a national marketplace. as president trump has said insurance across state lines. that won't happen overnight. we need to repeal a 1945 law and create a national marketplace. it makes sense if insurance is cheaper in nevada i ought to be able to buy it here and use it here, use it in nevada. all that competition will bring down price. one of the biggest ...

Medicaid, to get malpractice reform, to get a cheaper option and to create high-risk pools. >> melissa: let me drill down on that point a little bit. a solution i haven't heard from a lot of people that makes sense. this is tricky. you are saying put people into high-risk pools that go over different state lines. something rand paul talked about as well. that still in my mind getting people together doesn't solve the problem of how you pay for it. that's just a bigger group. you are saying of those pools that is where the government's money that is already being spent should be directed. >> ab...

2010 talking to you about this. are you concerned with replacing it with something that is effective as a doctor speaking to a physician? >> i think it has to be the focus is, bill. i'm not concerned about it. as i've said already here, the current insurance isn't working. it is too expensive. there is too many regulations. you can't get the doctor you want. you can't get the care you need. you can't get the tests you want. we have to replace it with an insurance easier to work with and have doctors that participating in it. most doctors are opting out of obamacare and you'll see malpractice r...

Years was reforming obama care before there was obama care. >> e he's had many, many plans. >> yes. one of his options probably had a different wording than donald trump's, but now he works for donald trump and will do what the trump model is but is the guy to get inside the engine of health care and tinker with it, make it run bet perp he's also going to lookality medicaid expansion. probably look at malpractice reform. >> sure. the medicaid expansion you mentioned. his plan, actually has been about repealing the medicaid expansion? the money the federal government gives to states to afford t...