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Scottish judge released him on compassion grounds. with us now is ronald bruce st. john an independent scholar who has written seven books on libya including one out later this month called "libya, continuity and change." good to see you, bruce, thank you. >>guest: good to be here. >>shepard: is this man crazy? is that the bottom line? are the people right when he say he lost it? >>guest: he often acted in irrational manner in the past but i have never felt he was crazy physical i -- until i saw the speech a day ago where he rambled for two hours in delusional manner talking about everyone bei...

Today for dealing with the situation in libya. fran townsend has been to libya twice. in fact, in 2007, she met with both gadhafi and his son saif. she met with saif again. that was his son who yesterday said there'll be rivers of blood in the streets. a threat against the protesters. what is your take on the developments today that gadhafi had to come out at 1:00 or 2:00 in the morning and say, no, i'm still here. >> it's not a good sign. gadhafi is clearly worried that because they put his son out there, because he'd not been seen and his son was the only one out there, i think he felt compe...

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