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Supposedly near an airfield by another, and then earlier this week, the am-26 was shot out of the air at 26,000, and that's the telling one, and when you reach up to 21,000 feet, you need to really reconsider man pad's threat and take into account that maybe this was an sl-11. clearly we have all sorts of satellite imagery and intel abilities to look across the border, and it's pen public law sized in the press about equipment, and, you know, russia has fingerprints all over this and they have heavy equipment that has gone in there and as you indicated earlier, it looks like several have infil...

The malaysian plane in ukraine threatening new fears. buck sexton national security editor at the blaze, buck, good to see you. do we need to worry about this, isis getting hands on sophisticated technology? >> yes. we've been worrying about it for a long time. the threat is not as much as what we just saw happened to the malaysian plane. it's really more from a man p.a.d., something you can put on your shoulder and shoot pretty easily. >> how high up can that go? >> they can go thousands and thousands of feet but not to 30,000 feet except for the most very advanced versions you'll see. we hav...

Investigation. >> exactly. >> we should all follow his cautions as well. but at this point, there has been very little response from russia to the sanctions other than medvedev today saying that this means ramping up russian defense. vladimir putin does not seem to be at all bothered by the economic actions taken by the united states. >> i don't know, andrea. my response is, i think poroshenko should reach for putin right now and get him on the phone. i don't think this has to be a public conversation and talk to him about what he knows and enlist his help. let's assume innocence until proven ...

This was all about. and then you've got to say, why wasn't there any warnings? >> let's bring in rick francona here. air force, colonel, you know about planes, about flights. tell me what vistrikes you here. >> well, why this particular aircraft? if you look at that display which is the transponders coming off all these aircraft, why that particular flight? why was that one singled out? it doesn't particularly present any kind of a threat. 32,000 feet, if that's what the altitude was, there's only one or two ways to knock something down. it's either air to air or surface to air. it's not a man...

I see no public information that this occurred, but we can't exclude it at this point. >> is it a difficult system to operate? i mean, is it something that requires -- >> no. >> -- a large amount of training? >> not particularly. they're very accurate. and once you get a lock on an airplane, once you've identify it had, it's pretty easy, especially an airliner moving in a straight line to knock it down. the same way a sophisticated man pad. >> i want to bring in lieu tenant colonel francona as well. what kind of training would somebody need to operate this? >> if they provided the people with ...