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Debate playing out on c span. >> who is giving way here, i should say? is it the conservatives or is it the ryan people? who is giving ground? any idea? >> in a sense, everyone will have to give a little ground. speaker ryan, if he had his druthers would pass it on intact. he's tried to frame it as a binary choice. vote nor it or in favor of leaving obamacare in place. conservatives get some of what they want. they want to move the update the medicaid expansion phases out. they'll get the changes in the management amendment. at the end of the day, they'll vote for a bill that doesn't go far en...

Woman is talking about, the democrats are apparently still negotiating because chairman miller, the education committee, indicated that the management amendment is still being put together so apparently speaker pelosi doesn't have her deal locked down yet and even as the rules committee is meeting, they are still making deals apparently on the managers amendment which we won't see until midnight or maybe even nine o'clock tomorrow morning. >> it's going to be a long process and of course we'll keep close watch on it and i know the stakes remain very high for both sides. thank you so much for j...