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In general, is that much of the press corps has been very, very unfair to this president. just look at most of the newspapers every day. but that doesn't mean you shut down the briefings. howie: since you are on camera, i have one more tough question for you. has it been awkward for sean spicer to go out of these briefing and people say we have reports that you are moving up to a management position. it's been clear white house officials have been reaching out to other potential press secretaries. ed: it makes it awkward. but the issue is not whether it's televised. he did not do well for hims...

In general, is that much of the press corps has been very, very unfair to this president. just look at most of the newspapers every day. but that doesn't mean you shut down the briefings. howie: since you are on camera, i have one more tough question for you. has it been awkward for sean spicer to go out of these briefing and people say we have reports that you are moving up to a management position. it's been clear white house officials have been reaching out to other potential press secretaries. ed: it makes it awkward. but the issue is not whether it's televised. he did not do well for hims...

Once. i don't think it's a good idea for us to relive it now. we've got to take those lessons, move forward and make changes in the way the party is run in our governance, in our priorities, in our approach. that's why i think a fresh start, somebody who is not a product of any faction, not a product of the washington establishment is the right kind of person to lead our party going forward. >> one of the big reasons you got this much attention right now is because, as the out party, who heads the party is more important than usual. even though it's largely a management position, it's also abo...

>> just to add that, the fact that he was somebody who is pro automation. when automation is something that over the next ten years is going to threaten tens of thousands if not more american jobs. and he was somebody that was supposed to be the secretary of labor actually endangerering americans' ability to work. >> you know, the interesting thing, ari, is usually when republicans come into the white house and they appoint a secretary of labor, they usually appoint someone who doesn't seem to care about the position, the job, the issues. but in this instance, donald trump did find someone who...

So this is a guy who is clearly, clearly not really on the side of the little guy or the workers out there. yet he was supposed to be in charge of the labor department. >> right. >> so put that -- that's all before his own personal violations of morality, if not the law. so i mean he should have been dead as a nominee from the moment this began. >> right. >> and it took all this. >> just to add that, the fact that he was somebody who is pro automation. when automation is something that over the next ten years is going to threaten tens of thousands if not more american jobs. and he was somebody...