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How much of this is a management problem by the president of hiring, how much is some of the best people may not have been available because they were never trumpers or said negative things about the candidate? >> that's exactly right, there is a split there. there's a large group of people ruled persona nongrata because they spoke out against trump or backed one of his opponents. donald trump tends to rush into picking people without going through the normal investigate process. i think it's important for people to remember that even had jackson survived these allegations which were raised by...

>> we're going to make america great again. we're going to use our best people. >> i'm going to get the best people. >> we're going to deliver. we're going to get the best people in the world. >> we don't want people that are b level, c level, d level. we have to get our absolute best. >> we're going to use our smartest and our best. we're not using political hacks anymore. it's a sophisticated chess match, but i have the best people lined up. you need people that are truly, truly capable. we have to get the best people. >> back now with the panel. joining the conversation is philip bump. it w...

So look, i ran against a guy, right. i never endorsed the guy. i don't like all the chaos. i don't like the divisions. but there was a fundamental difference between tillerson's view of how to do things. because remember, as the ceo of exxon, he was making deals all over the world, okay, and he was traditional. trump is not traditional. he just is his own playbook -- >> only tillerson you could say it's just tillerson but gary cohn is gone. how many names do you add to that list before you say it's management problem? >> cohn basically said don't put these tariffs on. there's a handful of peop...

>> ambassador, if you were in the trump administration, you just said. les talk about that. let's talk about who's going to be advising and talking withed the president when it comes to this meeting and what's going to happen. sar is ra huckaby sanders said the president had a incredible team to prepare him for these talks. but who are we talking about here when we talk about the diplomats when it comes to ambassador of south korea. there is none. the state department talk experts when it comes to the dpsh. who would that team comprise of? >> first i think the state department has a lot of ver...

This crime that he was convicted of happened less than a mile from where i live. and the community, obviously, is happy to have someone like him off the streets. as a father and member of the community, it's difficult to keep that separation between my professional and personal self. i try to focus on the fact that he is not a management problem. he's actually, i'll use the term, he's a model confinement to me. never gives us any problems and does everything asked of him. the requirements of my profession is to treat him no differently than i would a petty thief, and that takes practice. it re...