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To have your policy, the detention of thousands of these kids, it was not the policy under the obama administration, it is the result of zero tolerance policy. it's not like they can convince people otherwise. i think he thinks it plays really well to his base. maybe it does, more broadly, it does not way well to the political private. they don't want to play with a gun at their head. it's not a tenable way to operate. >> julia, where is it going on that question? the reservations i heard from the house is they don't trust how this administration would spend the money if allocated if they're g...

Been doing for a long time. what you have here is the first guy to say no, i'm not capitulating here. i'm going to call you on it. i think they didn't anticipate that response. >> what do you expect having been the spokesperson, what do you expect is the ripple effect through ami or through the head of the "national enquirer" offices right now? what are they thinking? >> you have to ask what they were they thinking when they did this. i think on the editorial side, people working there are happy they have jobs because i don't know if you have been paying attention, there's been a lot of layoff...

Doesn't even feel right to do this. that shows the humanity of this man beyond the political miscalculation based on where the media is going. he just couldn't understand how it's humanly wrong to do it. >> heidi, you have the human side of it we've talked about. you have the political side of it we've talked about. then you have the leadership side of it, the management side of it that we talk about. for those that don't know, everybody is talking to everybody. when four storms hit north florida, bill clinton was on the phone nonstop. the governors of the surrounding states were calling throu...

The straightforward answers that we should have gotten before the house several weeks ago. what i think the senate is going to do today is take his testimony from several weeks ago and dig deeper and require more. so by my estimations, he's not out of the clear. what's happened him, i think is that the president is standing behind him. that certainly helps him. obviously it's up to the president, but the scrutiny over his spending, over his travel, over some of the decision making that's happened on the management side are still there. and more questions, i think, have come about over the past...

Haspel more ten years, you spoke with her in the field. why do you think she is qualified to run the cia? >> this is a woman who dedicated her life to doing it. she started as a covert agent at the bottom, worked her way up in the operations side of the agency, has been in the management side of the agency. she knows it backward, forward, she's been in some of the tough times. look, we on the intelligence committee, we hear a lot of things that make us not sleep very well at night. with her as the head of the agency, i'll sleep better at night. >> many raised concerns about her involvement in ...