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Being here. dr. rosenthal, for better or worse, you have inspired today's survey question. make sure you go to my website, okay? >> i will answer it and you know how i will answer it. >> and you know how i will answer it, too, for everybody, go to smerconish.com. answer the survey question, ought the unvaccinated pay more for their insurance? from the world of youtube, social media reaction, the things i have. cajoling and insulting, calling them stupid, identification dits and cowards is not the way to get them vaccinated and neither are the mandates. education is the key. dave, i believe eco...

Am i right? or am i wrong? >> yeah. the problem. the one thing that the white house is trying to be careful of is not looking like they are meddling in the fda's business and i appreciate that, by the way, because we have aseen that happen before in other white houses and that's not a good outcome. so the white house is trying to stay away from this and let the fda do its thing. and the fda is moving but i want them to move faster. >> yeah. it's unsatisfying, though, doctor. this is inextremis. people aren't getting vaccinated because politics is winning, over practicality. but one of the real...

Doctor. thi politics is winning over practicality. but one of the real obstacles i'm sure you hear about all the time is it is only emergency-use authorization. like, if brown university came to you and said we are going to mandate this. they would get pushback from families because it hasn't been approved, yet. that is a big variable, that we can control. and i get that you want it done right but if the data is so overwhelming, what's taking so long? >> yeah. well, i will say the following, chris. so brown university did mandate it for everybody and a lot of people said, whoa, can we do that ...

Vaccines. so rather than require it, we have taken a pro active look and trying to do it on a voluntary basis. at the same time, we still have emergency use authorization and not full fda approval. we don't have longevity debate of the nine and 12 months vaccine efficacy. over ftime i think you'll see more and more universities could that. but currently, we're pretty pleased with the way that our faculty and students and staff are moving across the university of nebraska system. so we chose a voluntary approach. >> good to see a lot of people opting in and we'll see if if you don't get the num...

First-time, non-violent drug offenses. >> at the core of your argument here is that these minimum mandatory federal sentences have not doing what they intended to do. >> no. you know what? when i came into the system, i didn't realize -- it's a nickel. hold it. feel the weight of it? feel it? >> yeah. >> i had no idea that for 5 grams of cocaine, which is what that nickel weighs, 5 grams, you could be sentenced to 10 years in prison. i was with men sentenced to 10 years in prison for 5 grams of cocaine. that's insane. that's insane. >> so what do we do? do you want to throw out the minimum man...