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>> what are you going to do about people that are uninsured? >> i have an answer for you. >> number one. remove the mandate portion of this. remove it. okay. no, no. you want to solve this. remove the mandate portion. let insurance companies sell insurance across state lines. you want a government option knock yourself out. let the government 789 get involved and under cut the insurance companies. it will drive the prices down. it's the one thing that will work. >> you have medicaid for people who are poor? >> don't make the poverty -- i should have said who can't qualify more mfor medicaid. w...

Question. what are you going to do about poor people uninsured? >> i have an answer. number one -- >> free market remove the mandate portion of this. remove it. >> no, no, no! >> remove the mandate portion. let insurance companies sell insurance across the state lines and very importantly, you want a government option? knock yourself out. let the government get involved and undercut the insurance company. it will drive the prices down. it is the one thing that will work. >> we already have medicaid for people who are poor. >> not -- >> they are enrolling -- >> no. excuse me. i should have said...

More democrats are fed up and now they're speaking out. joe man con is working on legislation that would delay the man dead -- mandate for a year, but kate rogers says it isn't that easy. you delay one thing, then you delay more things and make a big miss. >> there's pros and cons of both sides. right now, the individual mandate still stands you. don't have coverage by march 31 knock, you have a three-month gap to get the coverage or the irs penalty will kick in, $590. she pros, give the administration time to iron out the wrench:s dirk. >> when you say rolling back? >> i had an analyst say th...

Ready for the employer mandate portion of that law. if the president can do that, why -- you know, what's so unreasonable about the house sending to the senate a bill to delay the individual mandate? >> it's attached to shutting down the government. so i mean, that's the unreasonable part. in other words, people can have all sorts of disagreements and say this part is not working so well. how about getting the computers to work flawlessly? that's all fun. once you attach shutting down the government, that's when it looks like it's a bully tactic and not about reasonable discussion. it's my way...

We heard a couple of weeks ago, we know the employer mandate portion of obamacare was going to be delayed until 2014 just after, it seemed, the midterm elections seemed convenient enough, of course. kathleen sebelius saying no, this is all part of a reasoning because we want employers to have the opportunity to look through the material and get on board with this. we said why now? why did he release this on a friday afternoon when employers were complaining about how they were going to implement this for over a year? why suddenly now? >> gretchen: yesterday the individual mandate was still goi...