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That means those people would choose not to take a benefit they could otherwise choose to take, but they've chosen not to take it. so, the point we believe is instead of having a government one size fits all mandate system currently in a death spiral which is what obamacare is, repeal that and replace it with more competition and more choice, lower costs, lowers prices and gives everybody better access to a more affordable coverage. you combine the federal -- you combine our bill which has tax credits, risk pools, health savings accounts, that dramatically expands people's access to affordable...

Will see, a change of system from a mandate system to an incentive's asian system, and i think we will see how that goes in the next couple years, but i think it is an exciting time if you are for a free market principles. >> jenna: as an independent, what do you think, is that what you heard as well? >> no, i heard we are not guaranteeing women's health because the specific issue of birth control is not related always to reproduction, but it also has health issues related to it, republicans especially the evangelical right has not been interested in that aspect of women's health, and on top o...