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They say, this is the gunman. this is the man they're looking for, how helpful could this be? >> oh, it's incredibly helpful. they probably scoured all the surveillance video around the city, leading right up to that spot. and they probably may have even tracked them back into a known neighbhood or a knn safe house where isis operatives come from. what's fascinating about this attack, and not just in terms of the investigation, but its execution. this is an isis attack where they did not carry out a suicide bombing or stay until the death of an attacker. that's almost unheard of for isis. it's...

>> why not? >> most of professors are way behind the development speed of the communities. >> why? your country is so advanced in so many other ways. why in this area? >> the network problem here in china, we have gfw, the great firewall, and it blocked a lot of important information websites. inside china. and a lot of people, they can't get the cutting-edge technology, which we don't teach in college at all. so the human resource problem and the manpower problem is more and more -- getting more and more serious here in china. >> because everyone's going to the silicon valley? >> they offer b...

Homeland security introduced a pilot program to begin reviewing some social media of some applicants but it's not done with the scrutiny. partly it's a manpower problem. also there were continuing concerns about the privacy, et cetera, clearly the san bernardino shootings may change that calculus. and you even heard secretary of state john kerry say they would review how they are going to do this. >> what about the search for the lake, the day before the attack -- >> and we've seen the pictures of the divers combing through that lake. they spent three days searching through the lake. it was th...

Okay? >> yes. >> it's in the service of knowledge? that's okay? >> okay for most the hackers in our communities. i was lucky. i got into a very big hacker community here in shanghai and met a lot of great mentors. >> you started in business at 21. >> in factory. >> quite an accomplishment. >> i didn't go to college. >> you didn't go to college? >> i didn't go to the college. >> why not? >> most of professors are way behind the development speed of the communities. >> why? your country is so advanced in so many other ways. why in this area? >> the network problem here in china, we have gfw, the...

Behind the development speed of the communities. >> why? your country is so advanced in so many other ways. why in this area? >> the network problem here in china, we have gfw, the great firewall, and it blocked a lot of important information websites. inside china. and a lot of people, they can't get the cutting-edge technology, which we don't teach in college at all. so the human resource problem and the manpower problem is more and more -- getting more and more serious here in china. >> because everyone's going to the silicon valley? >> they offer better. obviously. oh, here are the -- >> t...