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There's no holds-barred if an officer has the right to use deadly force to save their lives or the lives of innocent people. clearly in this case, that was not the case. the officer's actions, when he made the decision to use the chokehold, he knew or should have known his actions were wrong and should have known the consequences of those actions. >> thank you so much. coming up with a roundtable. ted cruz and his band on the right want to shut the government don. joe mccarthy is at it again. plus, the secret figure in the hillary clinton campaign who is already undercutting what could be ...

Miscarriage of justice. they got up here and lied. he stepped in and got a conviction. >> will there be a federal case taken here? >> i think that's more likely than the case in ferguson. i can certainly see the argument made there's probable cause for negligent homicide. whether that can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt will remain to be seen. i can see the case being made out here. >> i think attorney general holder will go after a systemuc problem in ferguson and a particular one in this case. they look at that guy and sympathize with him as a person. he's even a likable looking guy. i c...

Perceives to be broken, particularly in this case that there is something that did not work. what was it that this prosecutor saw that the rest of us apparently didn't see that led him to think this was not a -- >> what did you think of governor christie's statement that he's fine with the decision of the court. >> he's a prosecutor. i don't expect him to say anything that's going to be outlined of supporting the very process that he was in charge of for many years. same with hillary clinton. she gave the empathetic speech but not getting to the specifics of what this case means. this is reall...

Good things can rise out of the ashes if we don't fumble the ball. it's important as we continue the conversations about the tragedies we've seen in several cities, it's important to continue to say the overwhelming majority of law enforcement officers in this nation are good, decent hard working people who per form their duties admirably. i have watched the video. there's been a lot of talk about cameras and now here we are with video. the thing that is or has been troubling to me is once mr. garner was on the ground and obviously in distress and medical distress, there was no sense of urgenc...

Police presence here. one of the things that's angered this crowd particularly is the secrecy of that grand injury process. and they were hopeful that all of that evidence, the same way it was released in the ferguson case would be released in the garner case. instid what they got today was this minimal trickle of information that really shared none of the relevant witness testimony, particularly from those police officers that they wanted to hear. >> the people there, mainly african-american? are they a diverse crowd? can you tell? >> it's a very diverse crowd. and it also represents a lot of...