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To head comparison of who she might be up against. i don't see anybody on the republican side who can go one-on-one with the first lady. not that they ever have to, but they are compared. >> the obama campaign would do well to just show flash cards of marcus bachmann and anita perry and some degree ann romney who has seemed to learn lessons from 2008. you have anita perry out there crying about the memory of her grandfather who she apparently still communes with in the afterlife, comparing perry's candidacy for president to moses leasing the israelites out of egypt and the burning bush and it'...

And so therefore, i think we've kind of put ourselves in a very difficult spot, because, frankly, i think coming from a pure government issue, i think two gay people should have the same rights as two heterosexual people, because that should not be a christian decision by the government. and we'll have to find a way to unravel all of that. >> what do you make of the fact that one of the candidates for the republican side, michele bachmann and her husband, run an organization that basically does what you say can't be done, change people. here it is, here's marcus bachmann, the husband of the pr...

In life, what do you make of this whole thing? and now being politically involved? >> i also think it's important to not just limit it to the bachmanns. the bachmanns are clearly one step beyond and that marcus bachmann actually engaged in reparative therapy. but as far as i know, herman cain believes sexual orientation can be changed. rick perry championed a constitutional amendment that banned not only gay marriage but civil unions. i think that although this is a minority position in the country at large, it's a majority position among the republican base. and so, this kind of, you know -- ...

Romney on the campaign trail. i asked for it. to kind of do a, you know, head to head comparison of who she might be up against. i don't see anybody on the republican side who can go one-on-one with the first lady. not that they ever have to, but they are compared. >> the obama campaign would do well to just show flash cards of marcus bachmann and anita perry and some degree ann romney who has seemed to learn lessons from 2008. you have anita perry out there crying about the memory of her grandfather who she apparently still communes with in the afterlife, comparing perry's candidacy for presi...

If she ever said anything like that? we don't have any tape of mrs. romney on the campaign trail. i asked for it. to kind of do a, you know, head to head comparison of who she might be up against. i don't see anybody on the republican side who can go one-on-one with the first lady. not that they ever have to, but they are compared. >> the obama campaign would do well to just show flash cards of marcus bachmann and anita perry and some degree ann romney who has seemed to learn lessons from 2008. you have anita perry out there crying about the memory of her grandfather who she apparently still c...