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Services, on parents, on social services to help individuals so that they are dealing with some of these issues before they get to the point that law enforcement has them on their radar. >> mark, could you imagine a politics around guns that is different if they are seen increasingly as essentially the tool by which these kinds of attacks are implemented? >> it's an interesting question, chris. you know, i think recently we published a major investigation on the costs of gun violence, which is -- normally we look at these tragedies through the lens of tragedy, of human loss, and it's profound,...

Only 10% of those are naturalized american citizens. they are of all colors. they are of all religious backgrounds. and so if this is a much larger and profound problem that raises questions about the vulnerability of our youth to a variety of messages and to guns that allow them to express their anger in a context that seems to be increasingly destabilizing for them. >> mark, you've covered mass shootings and obviously in the case of the last few attacks, even the one in canada, the thwarted attack happened, the pam geller event, these were not explosives, they were not large conspiracies tha...

Radar. >> mark could you imagine a politics around guns that is different if they are seen increasingly as essentially the tool by which these kinds of attacks are implemented? >> it's an interesting question chris. you know i think recently we published a major investigation on the costs of gun violence which is -- normally we look at these tragedies through the lens of tragedy, of human loss and it's profound, it's devastating. everyone is expressing shock again today. but, you know if you look at the costs of these events economically, they're huge too. i started to wonder recently if that ...

Chattanoogans, as americans, and we'll overcome this domestic terrorism. what happened we don't know, but basically we're just shocked. we don't know what else to say right now. >> all right. thank you very much for joining me tonight, i really appreciate it. >> thank you very much. all right. joining me now, karen greenberg, director of the center on national simultaneous and mark fulman, national affairs editor for mother jones. karen, there's been some reports about possibly -- the daily beast said a possible blog post from the alleged shooter that was sort of religious in nature, althoug...

And states to obtain, possess, and use arms for legitimate purposes. make no mistake, we would never think about supporting a treaty that is inconsistent with the rights of americans, the rights of american citizens to be able to exercise their guaranteed rights under or constitution. >> joining me now, mark fulman, senior editor at "mother jones." mark the treaty has to get ratified by the united states senate. a tough chore with the nra standing in the way. but this notion that this treaty has any impact on american law in any way, how is the nra creating that fiction? >> well, you know, law...