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Industry there. they made recommendations to the school and changes were made in the 1980s. so, if they cooperated together, do you think it's possible to modify it in a way that could make everybody happy but keep the mascot the school's had for almost 100 years? >> i think they can make modificatio modifications, but i have to say, frankly, i'm a history buff. and when i first saw the mascot, i had, what it reminded me of were the negative images of jews that the nazis used as propaganda, the big head, the dark hair, the long nose. that was meant to frighten children, by the way. although no...

As a fierce-looking arab character. is it a source of school pride or a hurtful ethnic stereotype? radio show hosts joining us now, leslie and mark. good to see you. >> good to see you. >> the groups that are objecting, mark, say it's a stereoty stereotype, makes arabs look violent and unattractive, so why not change? >> because that wasn't the way the mascot was born and that's not the way that it's viewed out there. this is not so much of a matter of whether one person or 20 people think this is odd. when i first thought about this, i thought that's off the beaten point, but the point is whe...