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To him frequently and it's been very difficult to get any charity on who he met with, and whether he met with government officials. in some cases he just denied it. that's why this is significant and it's significant because he seemed to have notified the campaign about the contacts. >> so and to that point specifically, mark, one of the things that we heard after he came out of this house intelligence committee testimony, the committee was frustrated because he didn't hand over documents to them. this e-mail that was produced at the hearing with him while he was giving his testimony was not a...

Having contacts with russian officials during the campaign, an e-mail that carter page sent back to the campaign after the moscow trip appears to give lie to that. joining us now is mark muzetti, one of the reporters on this new piece about carter page that has just broken. thank you very much for joining us on short notice. >> sure. >> carter page is an unusual figure because he does a lot of media interviews and he doesn't appear to have a lawyer and he speaks in ways that make him seem like a comic figure. that said, what you described here is serious in terms of how honest the campaign has...