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Corporation to have religious rights over the rights of thousands of employees, female employees of hobby lobby who suddenly were not going to get this kind of insurance coverage. >> so respond to an alternate thee theory of what happened. this is a substantive decision i've come to and my colleagues have come to on the merits. it's about his judicial philosophy and another way of viewing this, he's tremendous organized pressure to put on democratic by the activist base that felt like any vote, it's fundamentally ill -- i certainly didn't feel any pressure. i think that's kind of an argument t...

So a lot of conservatives will be upset to know that we are keeping those things from obamacare and there needs to be an open debate about that. >> bret: is that all true? >> no, it's not. i think -- i like rand, but i think he is looking for a publicity stunt here. the committees of jurisdiction are drafting the frustration in getting feedback from their members. that's exactly how legislation is supposed to be written. the things he described are just not accurate. like i said, when the committees write their bills and put them out there to mark up, everybody will see what they have done. >>...

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