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They are heartbroken as well. without the body cameras they are making the case perhaps there is no indictment here. is that the case? >> i think they are right. i saw the mayor last night and told him, john, you need to put body cameras on every police officer in the city. and i have said this publically and i know the university doesn't like it. i graduated from the university of cincinnati twice. they should do what they do best which is educate kids. they are not in the job of being police officers. cincinnati police should be running this job for them. we should create a district six and ...

For the group that busted them on this issue. >> i think that is wrong too. >> nothing more extreme than the democratic platform on abortion. come on. martha: this policy and way this issue is looked at. and these videos have opened that door in a way that has not been even before, making people like hillary clinton saying it is disturbing. >> which it is. martha: certainly needs to be reevaluation of this. >> this is what i'm saying. >> thank you, monica, thank you, doug as well. >> great. bill: there may be more developments in the morning on that throughout the morning on that story as well...

On twitter but since deleted original tweet. palmer reportedly paid $50,000 for the hunting trip. he spent a lot of money and people are thinking wow he really wanted to go on the trip and shoot a lion. martha: apparently with a very good practice. a lot of our viewers raised question about outrage for this, i think understandable that people are very upset by what happened here but some people say they would like to see equal outrage for the planned parenthood issue and wonder about, the proportion in terms of the interest in human lives and this life of this lion but, getting a ton of tanks....

Killing a famous lion in africa. could he now face criminal charges? martha: louisiana governor bobby jindal said some of his opponents in the gop presidential race will say some pretty outlandish things to get attention. he is up next. >> 19 or 16. >> and i'm glad you're not running. you would be in first place. >> well. see me and trump going at it? >> you could sell tickets to that.

Political implications of all of this and when she uses the term, an attack on women, doug, it conjures images of the last election where we heard so much discussion of the war on women. so this will be used by democrats i would imagine as a way to say, see, here they go again. they just want to take away your rights. >> martha, given the allegations in this matter, and given the questions about what the footage is showing, we really need a neutral, nonpartisan assessment of what planned parenthood has been doing, how they have been using their money, before we rush to judgment. you're right, ...