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Choose. >> you're also on the spot on voter i.d. laws. you have a stringent voter i.d. law. i believe there san ongoing trial, it's in its ninth day. in that case you are defending the voter i.d. law as being constitutional. >> that's right. i have to protect the constitution and i also have to defend. and just like in the doma case where i cannot defend the governor and the secretary and the commonwealth where i believe it is constitutional -- unconstitutional where we have a material difference. in this case, all of the case law across the country has shown that the mere showing of identific...

Ability slightly. men overestimate. women have to feel 100% qualified to apply for a position. men don't. they feel partially qualified and that's not enough. so really understanding those issues and having an open dialog can make a material difference. >> a lot of book is a lot of stats and research about women in the workplace, the percentages of which they apply for jobs, just all the research. i thought was fascinating. >> one of the great things about the book, sheryl put herself out there. i can speak for myself personally, i have felt self doubt, a lack of confidence. >> because are you...

He has a better handle on how things work. >> yeah. no substitute in life for practice. whether in his private sector role or government role. i will focus on governors, states are the labratory of change. when i was in congress welfare reform passed but passed after being experimented on by the states tommy thompson and others passed it. >> brian: it is what is on the ground and senators have foreign policy experience. how does that factor when they go head-to-head. >> wait, wait, wait. four years of foreign policy experience, i mean, right before that, with due respect to the president of th...

Lieutenant governor's race. we're waiting on the results in the four republican state senate recalls. the pod -- the possibility at this point of -- showing the board for lieutenant governor's race. nbc characterizing that one as too close to call. the possibility that the democrats, if they win one state senate seat will win control of the state senate tonight in which case we would be like looking at divided government in wisconsin, scott walker holding on to the governorship and the republicans holding on. do you think that will make a material difference in terms of policy in the state? >>...

>> light breeze, sprinkles, but otherwise pretty good. the conventional wisdom of american politics and wisconsin politics is that good weather leads to sort of casual voters deciding to vote instead of staying home, so they probably break democratic. >> in terms of the democrats, i guess, logistical capacity, it's true around the country, it's particularly true in states like wisconsin, that so much of the democrats get out the vote effort essentially depends on being copacetic with what the unions are doing to get out the vote. labor has been this key ally, particularly on election day. not ...