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So this is the issue that's at hand. it's one thing to make certain material misrepresentations. it is another thing to understand who made them and can you corroborate that? you can say okay the numbers don't add up here. who's responsible for it? we know from the attorney general's filing that allege that a number of individuals have asserted fifth amendment privileges and eric trump did over 500 times. you can look at the documents and say the numbers don't add up. that might be the easy part as voluminous as the documents are but the real challenge to this case is who can actually walk us ...

By the way, trying to cover their tracks. and it is something we are going to see in the pfizer report. i believe horwitz is pushing forward, doing the right thing, he has to lay out the facts of what happened. he is limited. >> gregg: here are the facts, and what concerns me is that horwitz will say, they were sloppy, reckless, the fbi was unprofessional, errors and omissions galore. but, no criminal referral on the fisa warrant abuse. there were six material misrepresentations, lies to the fisa judges and here they are right out of my book. page 101. they were not told of the clinton campaig...

Again, and christopher steele, by the way, trying to cover their tracks. and it is something we are going to see in the pfizer report. i believe horwitz is pushing forward, doing the right thing, he has to lay out the facts of what happened. he is limited. >> gregg: here are the facts, and what concerns me is that horwitz will say, they were sloppy, reckless, the fbi was unprofessional, errors and omissions galore. but, no criminal referral on the fisa warrant abuse. there were six material misrepresentations, lies to the fisa judges and here they are right out of my book. page 101. they were ...

It is a fraud and i believe the state should open an investigation if she is admitted to the bar still. her status is in jeopardy and the state should go beyond that and look at the other material misrepresentations. >> bill: you think this can be prosecuted? >> it could be. the statute of limitations runs when the fraud is discovered. i think she could be in jeopardy. certainly of her license. >> sandra: let's deal with what we're looking at here. the fact that this would be the first known instance of an official document on which she wrote with her own handwriting this heritage. >> i don't ...