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To happen. >> this is an important point. there's two ways to look at spending cut side. are you worried about the math? or are you worried about the precedent? from the math perspective, the chain cpi thing doesn't get you much. here's a look at how -- >> notice interest savings does. >> right. look at this. we've done the comparison of a bunch of different things on the table for deficit reduction. everything from, no -- that's the wrong chart. that's the tax hike caused by epi. i want the revenue sources. there we go. thank you, carbon tax, 1.2 trillion. raise taxes on over 250 million and ...

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Proportional proportionally. if a candidate gets 25% or more. so he could only end up with a couple delegates. we're only talking about 20 delegates that are going to be awarded saturday. so from a math perspective, no, it really doesn't change anything. and since there is this expectation that santorum is going to win louisiana anyway, i don't know that a big win for him there -- unless it's really, really big, even then, i don't think it changes anything at this point. >> all right, jackie, matt, thanks to both of you. and you can catch matt later this afternoon, 4:00 eastern time, when he g...