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>> we're not interested in shutting the government down. what happens on march 1 is spending goes down automatically. march 27 is when the moment you're talking about, the continuing resolution expires. we are more than happy to keep spending at those levels going on into the future while we debate how to balance the budget, grow the economy, create economic opportunity. that's the kind of debate the country deserves. by the way, if we keep going down this path, we will have a debt crisis. it's not an if question. it's a when question. this isn't a republican or democrat thing. it's a math thi...

Thought you can't do that, you have to pay the government's bills. do you think this fight over priority is worth shutting the government down? >> we're not interested in shutting the government down. what happens on march 1 is spending goes down automatically. march 27 is when the moment you're talking about, the continuing resolution expires. we are more than happy to keep spending at those levels going on into the future while we debate how to balance the budget, grow the economy, create economic opportunity. that's the kind of debate the country deserves. by the way, if we keep going down ...

Than the last one. but ryan claims the numbers will eventually add up. >> this isn't a republican or a democratic thing. this is a math thing. >> a math thing. let's turn to congressman chris van hollen, who is the ranking democratic member on the house budget committee. congressman, good to have you with us tonight. >> ed, it's good to be with you. your analysis is spot-on. >> although i do not have the swampland, i was just kidding on that one. >> right. >> what happened today on the debt ceiling? i mean, are we going to go through this again in another three, four months? >> well, that's ri...

By almost a third. paul ryan's new budget plan will have to be leaner and meaner than the last one. but ryan claims the numbers will eventually add up. >> this isn't a republican or a democratic thing. this is a math thing. >> a math thing. let's turn to congressman chris van hollen, who is the ranking democratic member on the house budget committee. congressman, good to have you with us tonight. >> ed, it's good to be with you. your analysis is spot-on. >> although i do not have the swampland, i was just kidding on that one. >> right. >> what happened today on the debt ceiling? i mean, are we...

Misleading then, totally inaccurate now. this is a plan that's bipartisan, a plan i put together with a prominent democrat senator from oregon. >> there's not one democrat who endorses it, not one democrat who signed the plan. >> our partner is a democrat from oregon. >> he said he does no longer support -- >> we put it together with the former clinton budget director. >> who disavows it. >> this idea came from the clinton commission to save medicare, chaired by senator john breaux. here's the point, martha. >> which was protected. >> if we don't fix this problem pretty soon, current seniors g...