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They din want people to be angry at them so you haven't had a rush in of healthy people to sign up for health insurance because they can wait until they get sick and then go get it because the system isn't working the way it's designed. >> this is happening every day. not just in washington and there has been a measure of certainty with obamacare beginning to be implemented so there's real stakes for not only individuals but hospitals say doing well and they're getting a lot more money under obamacare and so there's all of these component parts that get tricky. >> also, it costs money to repea...

What they like is at stake. like your kids stay on your insurance policy, no eliminating people with pre-existing conditions and the like. what strikes me from so much of this conversation, if you look at paul ryan, paul ryan is someone who wants to privatize a lot of the entitlements that are very popular, especially with seniors, medicare, social security and the like. and then you come to trump and trump says, no, we're not touching those programs. and republicans who have been kind of the republican establishment that's been talking about it, they're off the books with donald trump so i do...

Trump to make good decisions and he'll take advice that's good and he will reject advice that's bad. >> let's get to some of the other issues. your name being floated as omb director. you are someone who for years and years has talked about cutting the pork, cutting the pork. "a," do you want the job? and "b," how do you make all those cuts and actually make a difference when all of his tax plan that has been put forward makes it pretty hard to -- to -- make the math work. >> it's not hard to do it. look there's 400 to 500 billion dollars of pure waste and fraud in the federal government right...

Ago. you antewcan't win an election n antagonizing the fastest growing group in the country, latino voters. the last time that republicans won the popular vote in an election was a campaign i was part of in 2004, george w. bush, 43% of the hispanic vote. donald trump is likely to be under 20%. you can't make the math work. so as we're watching tomorrow in the state of florida, which i think will come in early, and early for hillary clinton, it's going to come in early on the strength of hispanic voter turnout. and you look at states like georgia. you look at states like arizona. correspondingl...

Worse time to debate immigration reform. >> i've been in the middle of two presidential campaigns. one won and lost one. wing is more better than losing. it really is long and painful process. if you can't get 40% of the hispanic vote, you can't make the math work. period. mitt romney is 27%. >> you think a republican candidate can do this? >> john mccain survived the nomination process. what you need to be able to get in order to get nominated in these states, about 32% to 34% of the votes in states like south carolina and a lot of republicans in this country who understand we ought to have a...