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>> one of the most shocking moments is when ben carson was scad about his economic plan. this is a cnbc debate and they were told they wanted to talk about tax policy. ben carson couldn't explain what his tax rate would be. between 10% and 15%. the math works. the moderator said i did the math. that was the worst moment of the debate. something so central to the republican philosophy, tax reform, had a front-runner who failed utterly at it the. >> i was very curious to see what the dynamic was going to be between carson and trust. we've seen trump going after him in the last couple of days, si...

Seen from hillary clinton, right in it's not the campaign i would have expected of the hillary clinton who i watched run for senate in new york in 2000. right? times have shifted. the politics. they're smart people and can understand the way the math works. the goal for the democratic nominee basically is follow the path that led to two successive electoral wins. >> a fundamental truth of this race, chris, is a great republican candidate. dynamic, articulate, exciting. can still lose. a very poor democratic candidate inauthentic, inarticulate, shifty, not trustworthy. >> that is a mean thing t...

Math i think is understood by the professionals in both camps. i think it's largely why we've seen the campaign thus far we've seen from hillary clinton, right in it's not the campaign i would have expected of the hillary clinton who i watched run for senate in new york in 2000. right? times have shifted. the politics. they're smart people and can understand the way the math works. the goal for the democratic nominee basically is follow the path that led to two successive electoral wins. >> a fundamental truth of this race, chris, is a great republican candidate. dynamic, articulate, exciting....

You see the public at large really never wanted a deal with greece. the german public i think feels like hey, let them go. we're better off without them. they have never believed the greeks were good for their word in terms of reforms and i think it underscores that this has become a political problem as much as an economic problem. the greeks have said fine we'll leave. socialist government. they've taken all this pain. tremendous pop ulymph. you can understand their point of view. but i don't think the math works. >> what i was going to ask you before we were technically interrupted. you wro...

There's just no way -- >> because the math just wouldn't work. if the republican tried to reach over, it seems to me throughout the campaign the republican would be thinking wait, if i just got a few of those tea party people. >> exactly. there's no other way that the math works. it's like when people used to talk about mike bloomberg as an independent presidential candidate. if he got in, the only thing he would have accomplished is to have elected a republican. but lawrence, if you look at the slate of candidates for 2016, presidential candidates, some of the tea party people are looking pre...