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So we're thinking we can get this done, we know we can. and i've always believed that real health care reform will come from the smaller states who are not so beholdened to these profit corporations, but who actually working for their citizens. the other challenge here and the reason it's going to happen is our health care system in vermont is not sustainable. we're losing our health care providers. they can't live under the reimbursement system where they get 40 cents on the dollar from one patient and 50 from another, and, you know, occasionally someone comes into the provider's office, to t...

Are not so beholdened to these profit corporations, but who actually working for their citizens. the other challenge here and the reason it's going to happen is our health care system in vermont is not sustainable. we're losing our health care providers. they can't live under the reimbursement system where they get 40 cents on the dollar from one patient and 50 from another, and, you know, occasionally someone comes into the provider's office, to the doctor's office and gives them $1 for $1's work. we're losing our smaller hospitals. we've got to use our health care dollars for health care. ge...

Year after that, the year after that the year after that the year after that the year after that all the way to 2021 the president projecting spending more than the government takes in i think that is called running up the credit card. maybe not. the president did go on later on in his news conference to explain more. he said some red ink but not as much, the president made this point, not all his fault. >> we have piled up, wracked up a whole bunch of debt and there is a lot of interest on that debt. so, in the same way that if you've got a credit card and you have got a big balance, you may ...

Growth to go along with that better data. >> that's a huge asterisk as we know. certainly politically for the white house, that's where all the action is. i think i've heard from officials there before that they do expect the unemployment rate to tick up because as people hear that the economy's getting better, those who had been discouraged from looking for work start looking again and it has sort of that perverse effect of making the employment claims go up. the unemployment claims. >> savannah, that's absolutely right. that's how the math works. people are attracted into the workforce by a ...

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