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Sentence he delivered today, i don't know. he insisted it didn't but it's a lighter sentence than many expected. >> to that point in terms of him insisting that wasn't a factor for him, a bunch of people who have argued trials in this courtroom and observed this judge over the course of his three decades on the bench told us to expect that any allocution today from manafort would be important, that it's very important to the judge that people do accept responsibility, that they do express regret and they do appear to be sincerely remorseful. that's like the notes we were taking today watching ...

Right? then when you're done with that one, you can start this next sentence that i'm going to give you. you can start the next sentence thereafter. if that happened with the four years he got in virginia tonight, let's say he got five years next week in d.c. that would mean he would be looking at nine-year sentence in total. if the judge next week completely throws the book at manafort, that would be a ten-year sentence from that d.c. judge next week. if she gives him the maximum that she could give him, ten years and she has it run consecutively, the total maximum manafort could look at woul...

Sentence. it seemed like the judge, judge ellis felt manafort's case was maybe a little more severe than a garden variety tax evasion case, but he wasn't buying the notion that this was an incredibly dangerous scheme that really needed to be punished with an extraordinary long sentence. >> senior legal affairs contributor. can i book you to go to the d.c. sentencing. are you busy? >> i'm planning to be there with bells on. >> i'll talk to you then. >> thanks. former u.s. attorney barb mcquaid will join us next. we got a lot more to get to. stay with us. next. we got a lot more to get to. sta...

Tried to raise this issue of him having spent tons of hours in meetings with the special counsel and trying to get him credit from the judge and prosecutors told the judge tonight the number of hours paul manafort spent with the special counsel, that number is not reflective of the value of the information we received. quote, he told us 50 hours of things we already knew. he did not provide us information that was useful. so that's important from the prosecutor's perspective because it means they didn't want this judge to give manafort any credit for cooperating because cooperation was useless...

Ask chuck because he used to be the u.s. attorney in the eastern district of virginia, we asked him what we should watch for today at the sentencing, what we should expect and chuck told us quote, if he goes low, don't be shocked. i don't know if i'm shocked by the amount of time that paul manafort is getting. i think i still remain the capacity just to be shocked by the fact that the campaign chairman for the sitting president of the united states is going to prison at all, but for some perspective, now that we've got these numbers, joining us now is barb mcquaid. she was in the courtroom for...