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Characters. every single one of them has been interviewed by mueller's team at one point. the president's response, he tweeted, quote, the witch hunt finds no connection with russia so now they're looking at the rest of the world. oh, great. again, i invite any member of this administration to walk me through exactly why this is a witch hunt. how significant is this meeting? >> it's significant because it is illegal for foreign countries or foreign individuals to try to influence american elections. now, we don't know what the outcome of meeting is. clearly given the pattern we already discove...

Campaign on three fronts really that i think is something that is really not happened before the level of intensity with this investigation. >> the president's former attorneys we heard over and over, it will be wrapped up by the end of the year. the only person that matters there is robert mueller and he seems to continue to chug on. brett, compare this -- i'm not going to say unprecedented, but this extraordinary behavior. give us a history lesson. take us to saturday night massacre territory. before richard nixon got to that point, was he in the same zone the president's in? >> what happene...

It's going to continue to happen it's a very dangerous demonstration effect. the chinese view what's happening, non-state actors, terrorist groups see that we can be thrown into confusion and chaos and eat our own young when controversy is created. and the fact that it's laid out in the indictment the russians have played on the social divisions and political divisions and are playing right to the heart of our democracy, that's a real problem and that's max's point. >> it gets to your point, which is we're having a conversation that's based largely on the facts of the indictment and the crimin...