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E-mails -- >> so do you see this as some sort of cover for people around donald trump who may think, yes, he's obviously going to have to acknowledge this at some point? >> maybe they're leaving some space because they don't know where he's going to end up. we're all praying, i think, that at the end of the day when the electors have finished their voting that donald trump will go and turn the page, and he will say, we need to look at this -- >> it just finished moments ago. he's over the top now. there you go. >> i think this is a key test for the transition team of president-elect trump. i t...

Hard supporters and he's probably only going to gain more in the next few weeks despite his policy position on this. a lot of republicans and others, republicans. martha: the pulling over of independents and some democrats. we saw 47 democrats vote in favor of not allowing syrian refugees into this country. there are people in the middle they are talking about loudly. >> despite what people in washington may think, particularly in the white house. the american people also -- they understand that we are at war. and they want some one in the oval office who accepts that sobering reality that we ...