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Want to achieve. you have to remember obamacare is collapsing and people are getting hit with double digit premium increases. whatever we can do to get the premiums down and make sure the guarantee for people with pre-existing conditions is met but give states -- every state is a little different. we had a high-risk pool in wisconsin that worked well. they had a pool in maine that worked well. we want to give states the ability to customize the reforms to maximize the ability to lower premiums and protect people with pre-existing conditions and that's exactly at the heart of what the mcarthur ...

This is something we've been talking to them all along. we had a good meeting yesterday. ways and means and finance and the white house will work regularly to make sure we get a bill together that's unified. we've been briefed on what they're going to do and it's along the same linings we want to do. we see this as progress being made showing we're moving and getting on the same page. progress being made. say that again. yeah, right, progress, wow. [laughter] that was very interesting. so we see this as a good thing. >> on healthcare, does the mcarthur amendment get you to 216? >> tom mcarthur...

That's been what is such a concern to so many families. the rising cost of premiums. if you afford that, can you afford the deductibles. so we think it happens with the mcarthur amendment and in conjunction with what else is in the bill. that's why we fought so hard. >> neil: that would set the stage for getting the tax cuts through. do you think late summer, fall? what do you think? >> i think so. it's critical that we do that. i do think it's important that the bac tax not be part of the tax reform. there's a real problem with that. but simpler flatter, fairer tax system means more sense. >>...

You? is that part of the reason failure of health care? >> we had a good meeting yesterday. the committees, ways and means in the white house are going to work regularly to make sure we get a bill together that's unified. we've been briefed on what they're going to do and it's basically along the same lines we want to go. progress is being made, showing we're moving and getting on the same page -- let's do that again. yeah, right. wow. very interesting. so no we see this as a good thing. yeah, mike. >> reporter: does -- get you to 216? >> so tom mcarthur, one of the leaders has a lot of experi...

But something -- if it isn't the details of the bill, it seems, alice, something has changed here. do you think that something is maybe what john was pointing to right there? do you think that it's the pressure on them? maybe did they go home to their districts and were scared straight by their constituents that they want to see them get something done? >> there was a villageness on all sides to get something done the first time, but it just wasn't right. i know the house freedom caucus members campaigned, and they promised -- all of the republicans campaigned and promised to repeal and replac...