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Not coordinated but does reflect this idea there's multiple lines trying to make inroads, and they've clearly touched on a lot of people. >> glen, it seems clear to me mueller's investigation is very much about the question of collusion, not just about obstruction. >> yeah, it is. and i think the word synergy is going to become important, katie, but in a whole different way because there's so much synergy developing sort of between and among the many misdeeds of trump and his closest associates and family members. whether it's now his apparent involvement in campaign finance violations togethe...

Is actually going to be about cleaning up congress and passing reforms to campaign finance to restore the american people's faith in this institution. >> let's bring in tonight's panel. gabe, national correspondent for the new york magazine. susan, republican strategist and msnbc political analyst. currently the director of progressive programming for sirius xm. there's a legal threat we just talked about and also the political threat. the president seem tuesds to be shrugging this off. much as he did during the campaign when he was trying to shrug off controversy. is it going to work this tim...

Presented his case. we have other court filings, other things have been referred to the southern district, et cetera, but we have not heard mueller's case. and that's where the rubber hits the road, if you will. until then we can talk about what mueller is doing based on the bread crumb, but we have no idea. what's interesting about the impeachment is do they go by on the new york southern district court on the election charge, which is felony charge? if they wanted to go after that via impeachment, they should probably wait until it's all done so they have the case -- it's all laid out for th...

We ha when the star investigation was going on, he found the work therapeutic, and so the best thing for clinton if he was upset about the star investigation, so we're going to have a two day conference on children's health care, he would love that and dive into it. i do worry for our country this president is too distracted, too obsessed and he's having a melt down and he can't seem to get his head off for that. he was wise to cancel the meeting with putin because i don't think he's up to it. >> it doesn't look like he's going to, but we'll see. oftentimes he'll just go towards reporters and ...

Desired investigations. it matches the president's public statements as you well know where he has often talked about james comey, the former fbi director being a break laei leaker, trying to go after his political enemies rhetorically and then through the reporting of the new york times talking about pursuing a prosecutorial approach. we don't know where the president's thinking is on this now. it comes when he's submitted his own written answers to the special counsel team on events that we're told cover the campaign period but not anything during his time in office. his lawyers feeling anyt...