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We are still trying to get more information on whether or not people were killed. >> fred, what do you make of the libyan government saying they're pulling out of misurata? they say they're leaving the fight to the tribes. the spokesman for the rebel military command says if gadhafi leaves misurata, the game is over, it's a significant move. what do you make of it? does it make sense that they would leave this up to the tribes, is this just face saving? >> well, we can tell you -- >> it certainly -- >> i'm sorry. >> it does look like a lot like face saving. it comes at an interesting time, of ...

Army is withdrawing and the tribes are taking over. essentially what the deputy libyan foreign minister told me sa that he said the tribes have approach the libyan military and told them they weren't making headway, and the tribes that are loyal to moammar gadhafi would have to take over, they would hold negotiations with the rebels and if the rebelling didn't respond, they would move in and use violence. the big trouble with that is that the deputy foreign minister always seems to make a differentiation between the rebels, as he calls them, and the people of misurata. but clearly, many of the...

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