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Sue me terry as a korean-american, it must have been fascinating to hear from this guy. most of the time we never knew what they sounded like. we learned things like whether he has a kid, what he sounds like. has that been revelatory to you? >> absolutely. this was a huge intelligence success in terms of trying to get to understand kim jong-un better. we didn't even have a recording of kim jong-il's voice. i think he spoke once publicly. he was very introverted guy. kim jong-il was. and i actually heard his voice, the way he was speaking, his mannerism, how he acts with others. i mean, i think...

Abundantly clear, these people are not crazy. >> well, i would say in the case of north korea, it is still the most vicious, violent, brutal, murderous regime on the face of the earth. >> that is different from being crazy. >> i agree with that. and i think what we're seeing with kim is he's a lot more calculating and more concerned about his image abroad. i think in the case of iran, i would generally agree with you. but i have to say that their hatred of israel does seem to be irrational, from the point of view of iran's national interests. this death to israel stuff, their desire to be a co...

A success story two years later but there are more i guess followers being groomed peter van listing in one of the best known researchers of the belgian jihad movement says he sees no decrease in pro jihad language on social media how strong is their influence well basically with. the next that that happens who are afraid however the belgian government appears a bit more optimistic than. it has reduced to the national terror threat level meaning an attack is no longer considered probable but rather unlikely. for me terry it's fascinating looking at this because what authorities have to do what...

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