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Howie: the argument against it is, even with a facebook chat you can pick and choose which questions you are going to respond to. and you are avoiding professional journalists. i would argue that even though he doesn't need us in susan's words, it's also a very good channel and he happens to be good at dealing with reporters. >> the press didn't help get donald trump elected. it was him going over the top through his rallies and breaking news. >> a lot of people say the media did help get donald trump elected. but he did all these interviews. >> and he did all these rallies. he did the faceboo...

President-elect. is there a down side to this? >> sure. he feels and we saw in the campaign that social media is a way to circumvent the media filter, going right to americans to get the message out and that's valuable. the risk which is a risk his campaign team was aware of is that he can go off message, be controversial. they probably spent the most time trying to cleep up and walk back tweets he made as a candidate. as president that's magnified a hundred-fold. >> chris cillizza, con miles an hour tags challenges. do you think they will be tough hearings for some of the national security po...

>> i'm sure it is. not chopped liver. >> i got it. what's interesting as well is that here was this man who's clearly intelligent, an intellectual thoughtful person but was also hip and was able to draw in as we hear over and over this great number of young people who as we again, have heard over and over, got their news from jon stewart. >> yeah. and in that sense, he was also a media filter in that sense of the word. he sort of ushered in a time when people were increasingly turning to nontraditional sources for their news. and i think that younger viewers embraced him partly because he took...

I have wondered, are they better off with slaves picking cotton and doing things? or are they better off under government subsidy? >> matt, this guy was built up as a symbol of resistance to overzealous federal authorities. that could be true. it got many hours of coverage. in light of the racist comments that he repeated, was it a mistake? >> absolutely. i remember before fox news, before the rise of talk radio and i don't want to go back to those days when there was a major media filter but it is worth asking, is a conservative media a note negative the conservative movement? he was a story ...

How to pick cotton. and i've often wondered, were they better off as slaves, picking cotton, having a family life, doing things or better off under government subsidy? >> matt lewis, this guy, clive bundy was built up as a symbol of resistance to overzealous federal authorities with be that part may be true. i have many hours of coverage on fox news, in light of these blatantly racist comments. he repeated them when he tried to dig out of the hole. was that a mistake? >> absolutely. i'm old enough to remember before fox news, before the rise of talk radio and alternative media. i don't want to...