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Very smart. jurisdiction over what we are going to fight about is here in new york. reyesed to a new york judge demanding that rocco get on the plane. the problem is rocco didn't get on the plane. >> i agree, however. two things, number one as much as this is unfortunate during the holidays, it's celebrities. so everyone watches stories about celebrities that's fun. >> me deed that in a media master. >> madonna be careful what you wish for. what happened in new york that judge is going to stand in front of rocco and have rocco tell her he is a 16-year-old who was misbehaving out to 4:00 in the...

Feeding ignorance and the truth it is our job to trump. >> but trump failed to correct a citizen who said this and it was quite a moment and i was surprised he didn't. >> why? >> the moment seemed right for him. >> there you go and the fact he did not temperatures you something about him. >> look, do not forget the story of our times, the public's anger with politics and whether donald trump last to weeks or two therapies the anger will not go awaying in it is satiated. we need to cover that. >> ron fournier thank you for joining us. >> appreciate you having me. >> after the break, pope franci...

And feeding ignorance and not feeding the truth, it's our job to jump on it. >> why are you surprised he didn't? >> because the moment sees right. >> and that he didn't say it tells you something about him. >> the story of these times is the voter's anger with politics. whether he lasts two weeks or two terms, that anger will not go away. we had need to cover that. >> ron fournier, thank you for joining us. >> appreciate you having me, man. after the break, pope francis just wrapped up his mass in cuba, heading to washington on tuesday. is the popular pontiff a media master? later, everyon...

Engage. as everyone said no one wants to get into a ring with donald trump, someone who is a media master when it comes to understanding how to control your message on the airwaves and get publicity. >> what about donald trump's last 30 years in public life makes anyone think he is going to tone it down? >> is his brand predicated on ramping it up? >> everything has come from behaving just like this. in his mind he's doing great for the republican party and the hispanic vote. so from his point of view what he is saying is not just popular right now. he thinks it's smart politics. >> mitt romne...