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Horrible, it's somehow success, and he's used it to manipulate media perception? >> the question becomes, how awful is he? so if you have a guy who's just terrible, and he's the person that you knew in high school and stayed away from, because he led the bully band of boys, and his whole thing is about aggression, and creditation. he's creditory in his business activities, victimizes people left and right. he's predatory in his personal relationships. he's sexually predatory and he's politically predatory. you saw him stalking the stage, and i heard this morning and i agree that hillary clinto...

Were lost. in terms of a media perception if this had been god forbid a united airlines with americans on it, you can imagine what would be pushed for in this country now? >> no. and i think that's why you're going to see authorization again for military force piece of legislation. congress really doesn't want the responsibility for escalating. the ds are concerned we're on a slippery slope. the rs don't want to assume responsibility. they want to make this the president's problem. so that's also politicized. but again, chris, i think the reality of this is the generational character of this i...

Emotional element and the media perception of things and how that's portrayed. >> that's agood thing for him. >> except there's a caveat here. this is south africa. i don't understand all of the political ramifications, how judges were made and appointed and how that could affect -- >> actually, the only second female black judge since apartheid has been abolished, so that's what joe is saying getting to the political ramifications -- >> and obviously a woman is the victim here. following the social media traffic, a lot of outcry from women in particular from this. >> what is disturbing that i...

Do run the risk of being accused of being a bully. >> so the media perception of chris christie influenced by the feminized culture. >> the media loved this guy. voters loved this guy. while he was coloring inside the lines while being a bully. as soon as he colored outside the lines and started having actions that people didn't like, then all of a sudden it became okay to bash him. >> so you don't think it's the culture, you think it's the change in the way christie is perceived because before when he was a tough guy in your face, get off the beach -- >> we loved him. but if you're too much o...

We rejoice when it's not as bad? >> that 20 cents is equal to about $80 billion out of the consumer's pocket. i'm a big believer in psychology of the market. if the president comes out and does something about this and goes after the shale bshdy the way, there's about a trillion barrels there, the psychology of the markets change, prices come down and everybody is happy. >> we're already getting shale oil. we had the biggest increase in the world in this country, more than a million barrels add add a day. >> maybe those prices keep going down as a result. >> and the biggest in our history. wha...