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Will most likely give us trouble in wisconsin, michigan, ohio, pennsylvania? you've got to say at the moment it's joe biden. >> i, for one, i think vice president biden and whomever else gets in the race we need to have a robust primary on democratic side of the aisle and we've got great democrats to jump on the side of the race, not the previous gentleman. >> howard schultz. you're not going to mention his name? >> run, howard, run. >> so i have to say that speaks to a fundamental misunderstanding what also was happening in 2016. in 2016, a number of folks on the democratic side of the aisle ...

Compromise is. but i worked, as you know, with the democratic legislature for eight years. what i learned more than anything else about this stuff is everyone has to win. >> right or you don't get a deal. >> you don't get a deal or if you get one it's like scorched earth, you'll never get another one. >> interesting. in your book, you're very critical of a lot of people around the president, including jared kushner. how concerned are you about how the president and his team would deal with an actual serious crisis? assuming -- i'm defining that in a way that we haven't had one in a long time. ...

Far too many of us don't know a lot. i'm someone who is like let the investigation play itself out because i believe where there is smoke, there is fire and i think there is fire in this thing, jake. there is fire in that meeting and it will eventually come out. >> there's no pontificating there. >> let the fire come. >> democrats have suspicions and mueller has facts. >> it's interesting also why donald trump jr.'s lawyer didn't just reveal this information in an earlier date. that has what has been a lot of the fire for those democratic lawmakers who suspect that he did something wrong, why ...

Don't do perp walks to humiliate a guy. if the person is guilty, they get the penalty set by a jury and judge. what do you think of the way this guy was picked up at dawn? >> i missed a lot of the coverage because i was on my way back home. i know there was a debate whether there was a media tipped off. yes, people should be judged in a court of law. there has been a lot of media speculation and discussion about this. so i think that's all fair. >> does it concern you as democrat, a person of public life that people get picked up this way. a friend of mine got picked up like this. the agents w...

Moment to reflect on this was actually a good day for justice and a very, very good day for the president of the united states also important to say and focus on what the special counsel's office actually said. sean, my job as the president's lawyer legal time is to analyze these team and to respond to what was going on. this frenzy was that going on the last 24 hours. >> let me start with what he actually said. this is from bob mueller's office. by the way the first time they have spoken publicly about a false news story. this is what they said buzzfeed's description of specific statements to...