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On things like pedestrian fencing in the place that it is needed. but they don't want to see money spent on a big medieval, the term they often use, a big, medieval wall. the money is negotiable. the language that would allow everyone to declare victories, trump could say he got a wall and the democrats could say he didn't, may ultimately be what this comes down to. all of that being said, the players in this drama are scattered across the country today, and we do not see a lot of the top-level negotiations you might expect to see if we were anywhere close to getting out of this thing. >> yeah...

We don't know where, exactly, on the border that is or what the bidding process was like or how much it's costing u.s. taxpayers and so forth. so setting that aside, the president feels like -- >> well, let's not set that aside. and i understand what -- but he said that this was getting done. he said that he had taken care of it. we know nothing about it. there's no dpoumocumentation of nothing, right? >> and we've been trying for two days now to get answers from the white house about that, and they have not provided any information to back up what the president is saying. we should also point...

Picture, of the president, who says that we're in danger. we have to build this wall because we're in danger. it's the same reason that he put new policies into place at the border. and julia, you've been covering this border security issue all throughout. now we have a second child just this month in custody who died. customs and border protection, i understand, is making changes to the way it handles child migrants in custody. they're going conduct secondary medical checks on all the kids in their care, reviewing kid policies, reviewing custody options, and you've got these capacity issues t...

Result. >> exactly. >> and they slept beautifully. thank you so much. good day, i am chris jansing. we're now into day four. it is the first official workday of the government shutdown, no end in sight. there are lots of closed federal officers today, as 800,000 federal workers are not getting paid, even though about half of those, people whose jobs are considered essential, have to show up for work anyway. but president trump isn't backing down. he's refusing to sign a funding bill unless money for a border wall is included. here he was in the oval office, speaking to reporters on christmas d...

Over the house, the worse it is for the president. he has his most leverage right now, when republicans still hold the house, even though as garrett noted, nobody's in the capital. i was just up there, too. it's very quiet and the players are skif scattkind of scatteredt the country, as garrett rightly noted. he's not going to get $5 billion for the border wall. and his allies on capitol hill say that they're not going to settle at $1.6 billion, which is the bipartisan agreement. so this is becoming very difficult to see how this gets solved in the coming days and weeks. person i speak to thin...