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Happened. >> forced the u.s. soldier obviously left the base in kandahar in the middle of the night and shot back afghan civilians. >> the spokesman said the motives are unclear and incident is being investigated. joining me is general mccaffrey. welcome. i'm sorry under these conditions but good day to you. general, i-want to hear what you think, what your immediate take when you hear this. >> well, unfortunately, alex, it sounds like a senseless tragedy, soldier wandering around the dark murdering civilians in two villages. the investigation, of course, trying to sort out obviously the menta...

An e-mail and i'll try to respond to as many as possible because after all i work for you. but i guess that wouldn't make for a very interesting drinking game. >> not only that it would make for unanimous credible disruption. if you look at the jobs problem in this country, which is really at the core issue, without jobs you have the poverty problem w-the poverty problem you also have the education problem, mental illness problem, violence problem, lack of tax revenue problem. i can go down the list. you have jobs. you have a lot of those problems start to go away. you can't have jobs if the w...

No guns. whatever you do, you're going to have mental illness and you're going to have things happen. >> i'm not suggesting people who allow people with mental illness to get access whether they give it, sell them or allow access should be or could be prosecuted. >> it's all true. everything is fine. whether you don't give them guns they will get guns. now 200 or 300 million guns out there. they will get guns. it's not a gun problem. it's a mental illness problem. >> has to be a gun-free zone. >> that was a gun-free zone. >> to foreign policy -- >> by the way, if they had guns in the school th...

I was on a show this morning and said this is going to happen whether we like it or not. people will slip through the cracks. they are mentally ill. it is a huge mental. >> murder by gun rates have plummeted in the last 20 years but the mass shootings haven't. >> go back thousands of years and go forward. people will slip through the cracks. it is a mental illness problem. you can make areas like new york city better and areas where they have let go a little bit. in some cases let go a lot. even if you do it, usually the guys are loners. nobody talks to them. they have a lot of problems. what ...

>> well, certainly, sitting in front of the senate judiciary committee, i saw on both sides of the aisle that members of the senate of that committee really feel we need to do something. sometimes it wasn't clear that everyone agrees on exactly what needs to be done but i certainly saw that there certainly is a feeling, i believe, that a criminal background check is a necessity to keep criminals, the mentally ill and terrorists from getting weapons. that is very possible to get that done. we are going to work as hard as we can to do whatever we can to get common sense solutions. i think the fi...